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My guest for this episode is Jody Levy.  Jody Levy is the founder of The LabElymental Milk Cleanse, NeuroPraxis, and soon-to-be MYCOMEFREE.  She is also the co-founder of WTRMLN WTR.  Jody has quietly been suffering from symptoms associated with Lyme Disease, Mold Illness (CIRS), and a slew of co-infections and related imbalances for over 20 years.  Now she is fully recovered and living her best life. She feels strong, healthy, pain–free, and proud of her discoveries.  She always knew she could not expose her struggle until she was able to share the solutions that helped her get better.  In her unwavering belief that her journey was bigger than herself, she is now committed to creating simple and easy products that people can use to relieve their suffering and thrive.  For years, she was committed to understanding why she was always exhausted, in pain, puffy, blurry, and foggy. No-one could figure out what was wrong with her.  But she was relentlessly determined to understand why she did not feel good.  She set out on a painful and tedious journey to find solutions to help herself, and others, feel happy and healthy. She always knew that if she stayed the course, she would find the tools that would help her and ultimately many other people.  She spun a web of the most exceptional doctors, scientists, researchers, practitioners, and healers who all played their part in her epic recovery.  She tried so many treatments. She mapped her genetics and her entire body.  She was meticulous about how she recorded her treatments.  Protocol by protocol, she tracked and cross-referenced her short-term and long-term results.  She tried things that nearly killed her and when they didn’t work, she would get right back up and try again. Because she knew – intuitively – that she was going to discover things that would help her and others like her return to vibrant health.  During this process she was optimistic, but she was also skeptical of everything. After years of treatments, she questioned if she would ever arrive at an answer. And she finally succeeded!  She healed herself of Lyme Disease and mold exposure. She got rid of co-infections and the agonizing symptoms of viruses and parasites.  Her mental commitment, psychological anguish, and massive financial investments paid off. She got herself better.  Her test results came back clean. Her brain cleared, her vision got crisp, and her mood balanced.  Today, she is working to bring all of these solutions to as many people as she possibly can, so that no one has to suffer the way she did for as long as she did.

Key Takeaways

  • What was her personal experience through Lyme disease and mold illness?
  • What is the LabElymental Milk Cleanse?
  • What types of milk can be used with the cleanse?
  • What are the components of the cleanse?
  • What are NeuroPraxis and NeuroSculpting?
  • Does NeuroPraxis target the limbic system, vagus nerve, or parasympathetic nervous system?
  • What is MYCOMEFREE?
  • What are other tools that have been helpful in recovering from Lyme disease and mold illness?
  • Is there hope for recovering from complex, biotoxin illnesses?

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Interview Date

October 8, 2020 


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[00:00:01.03] Welcome to BetterHealthGuy Blogcasts, empowering your better health. And now, here's Scott, your Better Health Guy.

[00:00:13.20] The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition. Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or as information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health-related decisions with your own personal medical authority.

[00:00:34.24] Scott: Hello everyone, and welcome to episode number 129 of the BetterHealthGuy Blogcasts series. Today's guest is Jody Levy, and the topic of the show is BIOTOXIC Rx. Jody Levy is the founder of The LabElymental Milk Cleanse, NeuroPraxis, and soon to be MYCOMEFREE. She's also the co-founder of WTRMLN WTR.

Jody has quietly been suffering from symptoms associated with Lyme disease, mold illness, and a slew of co-infections and related imbalances for over 20 years. Now she's fully recovered and living her best life. She feels strong, healthy, pain-free, and proud of her discoveries. She always knew that she could not expose her struggle until she was able to share the solutions that helped her get better. In her unwavering belief that her journey was bigger than herself, she's now committed to creating simple and easy products that people can use to relieve their suffering and thrive.

For years she was committed to understanding why she was always exhausted, in pain, puffy, blurry, and foggy. No one could figure out what was wrong with her, but she was relentlessly determined to understand why she did not feel well. She set out on a painful and tedious journey to find solutions to help herself and others feel happy and healthy. She always knew that if she stayed the course, she would find the tools that would help her and, ultimately, many other people.

She spun a web of the most exceptional doctors, scientists, researchers, practitioners, and healers who all played their part in her epic recovery. She tried so many treatments.  She mapped her genetics and her entire body. She was meticulous about how she recorded her treatments. Protocol by protocol she tracked and cross-referenced her short-term and long-term results. She tried things that nearly killed her, but when they didn't work, she would get right back up and try again because she knew intuitively that she was going to discover the things that would help her and others like her return to vibrant health. During this process, she was optimistic, but she was also skeptical of everything.

After years of treatments, she questioned if she would ever arrive at an answer, and she finally succeeded. She healed herself of Lyme disease and mold exposure; she got rid of co-infections and the agonizing symptoms of viruses and parasites. Her mental commitment, psychological anguish, and massive financial investments paid off. She got herself better.

Her test results came back clean; her brain had cleared. Her vision got crisp, and her mood balanced. Today, she's working to bring all of these solutions to as many people as she possibly can, so that no one has to suffer the way that she did for as long as she had. And now, my interview with Jody Levy.

You and I have had some mutual acquaintances, but really only recently met.  And I love that you're working hard to bring new tools to the Lyme community, to the mold community. I really wanted to have you on the show today to share your journey and some of the tools that you found helpful in your own personal recovery with our audience. So thank you so much for being here today, Jody.

[00:03:58.05] Jody L.: Thank you for having me, Scott.

[00:04:00.00] Scott: It's an honor. Let's start with your personal story and how you arrived at a place of wanting to help other people improve the quality of their life after their own dealings with things like chronic Lyme disease and mold illness. Tell us about your journey; I know it's a very lengthy one.

[00:04:17.17] Jody L.: This is actually one of the first times I’ve talked about my journey, so bear with me if I get a little slow or a little welled up. So, I grew up in the Detroit area in a suburb of Detroit and did not really have any like Lyme or tick awareness at all. And I went to school in upstate New York at a place called Skidmore College that had these amazing woods behind the campus. And so like every day we were in the woods, I was an art student, and I have a degree in painting and fiber arts. And like we'd leave the studio, and we'd go in the woods and do things we weren't supposed to do, and like just run around and hang out. And now like I think about it in hindsight, the way that I am when I’m in upstate New York, which is like delicate and careful and I wear my white socks to make sure I can see things crawling on me, and I mean I knew nothing.

So I went home after my first year, I ended up getting really sick. I love music. I’ve always loved music. So I was sort of like that's when like the dismissing kind of accused me of living the wrong lifestyle, and that's why I need to like that's how I’ll get better started. My parents, I went to my dad one day, and I was like I don't feel good like something's not right, I can't think straight. He's like Jody, stop going to abandoned warehouses all night long and dancing the music and coming home at 7 am, like of course, you don't feel good.

But ultimately, a couple of months in, I ended up in the hospital. And I was diagnosed with like Epstein-Barr and Mono which we now know are precursors. And I was fine; I’m always fine, right? But it was sort of the beginning of an 18-year journey that included me living an amazing life. But I would look around at the people around me, and I worked really hard. I had a couple of companies. I was traveling all over the world; my clients were all over the world.

And I would see people, and like life was easier for them. Their bodies, when we would be like climbing up a mountain; it was easier for them. It was more fluid. And so I would just watch and like mentally I would feel edgy, and I would feel impatient. And I had these characteristics about myself that I didn't love; I’m a pretty like self-aware person.

And I just started to realize that like something was different. And so I kind of committed to trying to figure out what was up, and every time I would go to a traditional western medical doctor, they'd be like oh, you're the epitome of health, right? Your temperature is low, your heart rate is low, this is great, you're awesome. And I was just like oh god, okay cool, I’m awesome. Maybe I am just stressed, right? Maybe I should stop dancing and drinking my green juice until the sun comes up and whatever. And so 18 years later, after really trying a lot of things but kind of quietly, I was using nutrition to stay balanced.

I had like all these tricks, and so much so that in business with my clients, I would have like I’d have a notebook, I’d have my cell phone, I’d have an email, and I would write things on the inside of my wrist just because I would forget them and thought that was normal. So one day, I really realized that like I had created a system for myself, that wasn't normal. And sort of double down on what's really going on here.

And I was in Denver visiting my sister, and I looked at her husband, my brother-in-law of many years, and I couldn't remember his name like there was nothing there. And it was this like tangible, like okay this is not normal. And that's when I decided to put all of my tools as a CEO for my companies into my wellness. And took it out of everybody else's hands, and I was like I’m going to figure out what's going on. 

[00:08:30.26] Scott: Yes, it's interesting. It reminds me of the time that I ended up sitting in the back seat of the car and just looking around, wondering like how do I make this thing go. And I knew that something was wrong, that there was no driving the car from the back seat, but like why was I in the back seat? Those kinds of moments where you're like okay, something cognitively just isn't right.

[00:08:52.01] Jody L.: Yes.

[00:08:52.05] Scott: So ultimately, as I recall, you dealt with both Lyme disease and also mold illness, in addition to the EBV and some of the other things that you mentioned. In fact, I think I read somewhere that you had 14 vector-borne related microbial overgrowths, is that right?

[00:09:09.04] Jody L.: That's true. So yes, I figured out that I had exposure to toxic mold, and learned everything there was about mycotoxins. And like, first of all, I mapped my entire body. I mean, I went and saw everybody; I sent parts of myself everywhere. I mean, I laughed that like there's a bit of me across the planet. And my Dropbox is like I'm waiting for the scientist that's like what is this? It is so impeccable.

Because I did everything one step at a time, and I tracked what happened, right? And so I had, like many people, negative Lyme tests for years. And then I did some experiments, and I went on some biofilm busters for like way too long, probably just because I bought too many of the supplements. And I just kept taking them, because like what else do you do? And then, I retested after my fourth test, and these results came back, and then the mold results came back.

And then it's also like I was catching up, and science was catching up. Like we didn't have the urine test, we didn't have the knowledge about the mycotoxins, we didn't have the understanding that fungal growth can continue to perpetuate in the body. So as this stuff was like expanding, I was like hold on a second, like in that little rabbit hole.

So ultimately, in addition to my like normal daily biohacking nutritional balancing, I went to Hawaii for like a week with this like extensive mold protocol in my back pocket and a bag of stuff. And I did it for a week, which is funny because it's like the moldiest place on the planet. And I ended up staying for like three months, had the best time, was outside all day long, and I lived on this very extensive mold protocol.

Meanwhile, I’m running several companies. I’m doing my thing. I’m like up at 3 am because of the time change to the east coast raising money and building stuff, and nobody knew I was sick. And then somewhere in that time frame, I finally got the positive Lyme results back. And did the same thing, kind of like came back to the states, did a bunch of different things.

And ultimately, went back to my roots, which was a study and understanding of Ayurveda. And so years ago, and I was probably already sick. It was probably one of the entry points for me really becoming fascinated with the human body and balance to our environment. I started learning about Ayurveda, and it was like those things in life where you just like, you start to dabble, but you're so fascinated that it takes you.

Like you want to understand the details, and you want to go deeper, that's how Ayurveda was for me. So I started looking at like the base constitutions, and the concept of balance of all things in life, right? And there have been times where I forget that. I think we all forget that, especially when we have like a diagnosis or a result that tells us that there's something that we're supposed to associate with bad, that's supposed to have like a fix, right?

So it's like someone has mold, so they should do this, or somebody has Lyme so they should take this. And the truth is it really is all about balance, and no two things work the same for anybody. So as I was like meticulously mapping my body, and trying all of these different protocols and some of them were very western, and some of them were very Hubuduh hubuduh and everything in between, I was tracking how I felt during, how I felt after, like impeccably.

And it wasn't until that experience in Kauai, where I was on the mold protocol, starting to think about how I was going to treat Lyme. Starting to think about how I was going to get back to my optimum like state, that I really tuned back into the idea that the human body is an ecosystem that has to always be in balance. And at this point, very few people knew that I was sick. I mean, I went through a long period of time where I was living in New York City, running my businesses.

And I would leave the office at like 2 pm, and I’d go to one of the many doctors’ offices that I went to, and they'd put me in a closet with like an IV drip in my arm. And I’d be like on conference calls and making products and like talking to investors like in the closet of my doctor's offices because I never let it get me down. And more importantly, I didn't want anyone to know what was going on, because I didn't know if I’d get better. 

[00:14:36.19] Scott: Yes. It's interesting; I wish we had known each other years ago. We both have been through this journey now for about 20 years. I think we were both, at least my perception as type A overachiever, perfectionist type personality.

[00:14:51.28] Jody L.: Who you calling a perfectionist?

[00:14:53.24] Scott: So definitely a lot of things there. And I love Hubuduh hubuduh type interventions over the years; I think those are some of the ones that have helped me the most, so it's pretty amazing. How many practitioners would you say that you ultimately worked with or collaborated with?

And I know it was more than practitioners you work with scientists and healers and so on. And then tell us about some of the things maybe that you tried that didn't really work well for you, that led you to this CEOing of your own health?

[00:15:21.26] Jody L.: So I’ve never actually thought about how many people I’ve worked with. I’d have to give that some thought because my superpower is connecting dots and connecting with people. And so the same way that when I’m creating a product or I’m learning about a topic, or it's like where I hit my flow state. It's like I sort of surrender, and then people come in, and so there are all these like guardian angels. And I actually look at every single one of them with like the biggest gratitude, because every single person was a stepping stone. Or I learned something, or it led to something else. But I mean there's been hundreds of people.

And as I’ve like walked into these offices where I have always been much more of a what's the right way of putting it, like I would walk in with my full energy laughing and I was going through hell. I mean, they were taking blood out of my body, and they were putting lights in my veins. And I was just excited like okay, number seven, UVLRX; it's like one of three machines in the country.

Like I would into it as like a lifelong learner, so I tried to make the best of it. And every single patient that I met that was sitting there with PICC lines, and like just desperate, all of them were equally as impactful, because I was like I know that if I endure this and I get myself better, I can help other people get better. It was the only thing that kept me in it.

[00:17:07.00] Scott: The gratitude for the experience, the gift of the experience, I mean, I’m not going to say that my journey was not a huge struggle. But, I wouldn't trade it in for all of the things that I got as a result of it. The people that I’ve met, the things that I’ve learned, the perspectives that I’ve gained. And so I do look at it, as much as it was a struggle, I do look at it as an amazing gift as well and an amazing learning experience going through it for as long as we both have.

So part of what you've done in putting together some of the tools is creating this BIOTOXIC Rx that includes The Milk Cleanse, the LabElymental Milk Cleanse. The NeuroPraxis work, MYCOMEFREE; and so while I don't ever do podcasts to push a product or to be commercial like I’m really excited about these tools, and I want to hear more about them from you. And I’m really excited that you're creating these things.

The first one, The Milk Cleanse, or the LabElymental Milk Cleanse that came into my consciousness recently on a podcast with Dr. Linda Lancaster. And I’m really excited that that was a fantastic discussion that I had with her. So tell us a little bit about this whole, the idea of a milk cleanse. Like most people are probably thinking, well, my doctor says I’m not supposed to be on dairy. And then what's the intended goal of it? Is it for parasites like many people think, is it for Lyme spirochetes? Is it for something different or maybe for both of those things?

[00:18:38.01] Jody L.: So I’m going to back up a little bit and tell you my story, and hopefully answer some of your questions. I have to be super cautious about what I say about all the products because I tend to be very cautious, like somebody who makes food and beverage and supplement products. But let me tell you my story a little bit related to that, and then I can answer that more specifically.

So as I was kind of like deep in my process, I met this guy; his name is Dave Sokolin, he's also our partner. And he came up to me at a party, at one of my best friend's house. And he was like hey, I know nobody's supposed to know what's going on, but I know what's going on and I’ve got this thing for you. And I’m like dealing with my anger that like someone has seen a kink in my armor, right? And he was a very sweet, gentle soul, and I was like okay.

And I’m really good friends with this woman; her name's Dr. Linda Lancaster. She's been doing this milk mono-diet parasite cleanse for years, and she helps people like you and I. And I was like biggest eye roll of my life, like a milk diet, like you want me to do panchakarma, right? Going back to Ayurveda like okay. But I was also at the point where I was like listening to his story, and he's like I was sick forever, and I am thriving, and I feel amazing.

I did everything, and I was on antibiotics for years, etc. and I was like I’ve done way weirder things than this, let me meet this Dr. Linda, right? So I’m introduced to Linda, and we become like immediate soul sisters. And we have lots of laughs, and I send my blood in, and she sends me this kit back, and it's like, I traveled with it around the world for months. I mean, I had this thing like literally in my pocket, like just kind of like it was like ever so often, it would peck at me.

And I had talked about it a little bit with some close friends, and they were like oh, there's some camel milk, you should try the camel milk and this and that. And so I went to Hawaii, which I told you about, I did this very extensive mold protocol which I’ve now simplified. And I came back, and I still wasn't feeling great, I was feeling better, but I wasn't feeling great.

And I pulled this kit out of my bag, and I was like all right, I’ve drunk things that I shouldn't have drank before, I can drink goat milk. So for eight days, I drank only goat milk, and I took Dr. Linda's supplements. And I went through it, I mean it's a proper cleanse, and it's a proper fast, you don't really get hungry because milk is the perfect balance of protein, carbs, and fat. But when there are things in your system that are being pulled out, because the milk acts like a magnet and the supplements help kind of move it through your system, you go through stuff. And I also believe there's a bit of a limbic looping, there's an association with the brain also that plugs in which I’ll talk through after. So on day eight, after I was in Denver with my sister and by day three, I was like all right, things have sort of moved through me, and we're climbing mountains, and we're working out.

She's like this amazing fitness instructor. Day four and five, I was like this is weird, like why do I feel so good? And day seven, I was like oh my god, like my body just feels different, I’m not in pain, my joints are like limber and moving. Day eight, my sister looks me in the eye, and she was like, I haven't seen you in years. My brain was clear; my vision was clear.

I had like this; it's hard to explain. Like there was like this layer of edgy impatient like sassiness, not like my good funny sassiness, but like the uncomfortable sassiness that really comes from being that like in that weird kind of state that many of us know, gone, it was just gone. And I picked up the phone, and I called Dave, the guy from the party, and I called Dr. Linda, and we got on the three-way conference call, and I was like this is incredible, how long will it last? And they're like it’ll last.

I mean, you're going to want to do it for maintenance and prevention, but like you're going to feel good. And I was like let's turn this into a product; everybody has to have access to this. And they were; wasn't quite so like yes, just a yes, but it was like a yes. And so we set out, and we set out, and we were committed to turning the milk cleanse into a product that anybody could have access to at any time.

[00:23:45.23] Scott: And so my understanding from talking with Dr. Linda was that it potentially can be helpful with parasites, but then when we think of Lyme disease and spirochetes, she actually thinks of those more as worms or parasites when we're talking about Borrelia. And so are people that are using the milk cleanse, seeing benefits both from a parasite perspective and a Lyme spirochetosis perspective.

[00:24:11.18] Jody L.: Okay. So I’ll tell you two things, one I highly recommend that everybody listen to your conversation with Linda. She can say a lot more than I can as a practitioner on the topic. But this is the milk cleanse here; you'll notice that our mission, which is on the product right here, is a percentage of every kit sold goes towards the prevention and treatment of Lyme disease and tick-borne illnesses and parasites.

And the reason for that is because everybody that's involved in this, so Linda, myself, Dave, our COO Nora like the list goes on and on. All of our partners across the world have all used the milk cleanse. This is the new form, but from Linda, and it has had incredibly transformative effects. So I knew that Linda couldn't take on the world, right? She only has so much bandwidth as a super hands-on practitioner, and so we came together to turn this into a product that could be accessible to everybody.

And like I said earlier, wellness and a wellness intervention like this is a great like reset, but every single person's different. And so I’m not here to say okay the milk cleanse is great for everybody; I think the milk cleanse, in conjunction with other things that people do, is a highly effective tool to maintain balance. And no, I don't drink dairy, and many people avoid dairy, and I understand that dairy creates inflammation.

In this instance, for these eight days, you're using the full-fat animal milk as a magnet. And so like you would other types of non-everyday interventions, you have to think of it like that, it's like an eight-day tool. And we're using the tool for a very specific function, and when it's over, there's a phase two, which lasts about two and a half weeks, and you return to clean nutrition, and that recommends no dairy.

[00:26:27.16] Scott: Yes. And I wouldn't bet against Dr. Linda being able to take on the world; she's a pretty passionate and amazing lady; I love her to death. So let's talk then about the milk, so you mentioned goat milk.

I want to talk a little bit about the difference between A1 and A2 milk. So my understanding is cow dairy is A1 milk; it's more inflammatory. But when we get into things like goat and sheep, for example, that that's a different genetic line that's producing that milk. And that that's actually not as inflammatory as cow dairy, for example. So talk to us a little about the types of milk people can use, and you mentioned camel milk, so could someone do this cleanse with camel milk if they wanted to.

[00:27:12.11] Jody L.: Yes. So some of the best advice that Dave gave me when I finally did my first milk cleanse, he was like treat the milk like a wine connoisseur. Get every kind of milk you can find, mix it up, try everything, and I did that. And I happen to really only drink goat milk. For me, as you said, goat milk and sheep milk is the closest thing to human milk, and so it's a lot easier for a lot of people to digest. I also have used like organic cow's milk; if I’m on a milk cleanse and I go to a coffee shop, I’ll have somebody, I’ll have a coffee shop like steam and milk for me, put a little cinnamon on top or something like that.

Makes me feel like slightly normal every once in a while. But I also come from the food and beverage industry, so I started to look at who was out there, and I have a friend that has a camel farm, and he ships frozen camel milk. And I don't love camel milk personally, but it's incredible. Like there's all this science, and I’m not an expert on camel milk and claims, but I have seen some really interesting articles about the relationship of camel milk and resetting the gut microbiome, especially in autistic kids.

Apparently, there's like I live in Colorado right now, and I just heard that there's a water buffalo farm in Aspen, and you can get water buffalo milk. So Nora, our partner, and COO and I are sorts of geeking out on that, we're waiting for our water buffalo milk to come in. And one of our dreams is to kind of have this like marketplace where we get to feature all the cool farmers around the country, and we had a girl recently who she wasn't feeling well for about a year and a half.

She knows that she was bit by a tick, she had some results, and she thought that the milk cleanse would potentially help her reset her body and get back into feeling really healthy. And she is like straight up lactose intolerant. So she made the decision to do this anyways, and she actually rented a goat, and she had the goat with her in Maine.

You can see some of her stories on our social media; she's amazing. She did the milk cleanse; she used almost exclusively the milk from her goat, her borrowed/rented goat. And eight days later, I mean she is thriving, she's so happy. She feels incredible. She didn't have any issue with the dairy, and it's one of many stories of kind of a dairy intolerant person that got really into like her milk sourcing.

[00:30:07.20] Scott: Yes, that's amazing. So tell us a little; in the box, so obviously the milk is not in the box, but what you have in there is the Formula 1, Formula 2, and the Herbal Colon Builder. So tell us a little bit about the purpose of each of those different products.

[00:30:21.27] Jody L.: So, during phase one of the milk cleanse, you take our Formula 1 supplement every two hours. And it's a combination of cayenne pepper, cranberry, slippery elm, and it works in conjunction with the milk. One of the things that's really interesting as it relates to many people's experiences with dairy is that often it makes them like a little flemy, and it makes them break out. And when you look at that from a like an Ayurveda perspective, milk is cold; it's cool, it's damp, it's wet, right? But because our pills have a heating effect, it balances it in the body. So a lot of people don't get that if the effect while they're taking the supplements with the milk.

And then the Herbal Colon Builder, and then the second supplement for phase one is called Herbal Colon Builder, easy for me to say. And people take two twice a day or sometimes three times a day, that's what helps keep things moving. So as the milk acts as like a magnet in the gut, it's important to keep things moving through the digestive system and exiting the body.

And then, during phase two, when you reintroduce clean nutrition, you continue taking phase one, and you add in the phase two supplements, which help to nourish the stomach lining and help to further move everything out of the body. I’m going slowly in my words because I’m trying to be very careful about what I’m saying about the product.

[00:32:00.22] Scott: And is that the Formula 2, then that's part of phase two.

[00:32:03.05] Jody L.: That is the Formula 2, yes.

[00:32:03.26] Scott: Okay, beautiful. Yes, this whole idea of using milk as bait is really interesting, obviously. Dr. Linda has done this for a long time; I think she talked about it coming from her mentor Dr. Hazel Parcells if I remember correctly. Dr. Klinghardt has used this in some of the protocols for something called rope worm that came from Dr. Gubarev in Russia many years ago as a way to kind of pull the bugs out.

And in treatment of Lyme disease, for example, he does something similar using hyaluronic acid to also kind of be like a bait for then whatever other antimicrobial herbs and things people are doing. So it's a really interesting concept. Now in terms of the length of the cleanse and what people experience while they're cleansing. So you mentioned the first eight days, and then that's when you're doing just the milk and the supplements, and then another two and a half weeks where you're bringing back in some healthy food and things like that; you're not limited to the milk.

Are you still doing milk at all? No, you're not doing milk at all in phase two, yes, okay. And then tell us a little bit about you mentioned the one lady that had a great experience that rented the goat. What are some of the other experiences or feedback that you're getting from people that are doing the cleanse?

[00:33:20.12] Jody L.: So people do the milk cleanse for all different reasons. And the people that have been drinking milk as I like to call it, they'll do it two to four times a year. And they do it to like give their gut a break, give their metabolism a break, give the body a break. So I do the milk cleanse a lot, I love it. I honestly feel better when I’m on full-fat goat milk than I do on anything.

Except my sister's like a gourmet chef, so there's a little fight with myself that I have. I get on like day one of the milk cleanse, and I feel like I am flying. It's like a gossamer string up and like total grounding down, and I have crazy energy. I’ll work out like all day long; I’ll dance for hours, it's incredible. And now that we've launched this product, all these people who have been doing the milk cleanse for decades have come out of the woodwork, and they do the same thing.

Like sometimes they'll do it to just tone their bodies, sometimes they'll do it to kind of reconnect their brain and clear their mind out of fogginess. I have people that have had mold exposure that do it to kind of give their systems a break, and it's very calming and very peaceful. A lot of people do it for like a gut reset if they're struggling withCcandida.

So it's incredible like we kind of brought this to the world because we all had very similar experiences with these compounded biotoxic imbalances. But what we realize is that a lot of wellness experts, executives, like badass humans around the planet, do it just to tune and like get back to their true selves. And that's one of the most exciting parts of the storytelling.

[00:35:10.09] Scott: So one of the common scenarios in people dealing with Lyme disease or mold illnesses, they're taking 50 different supplements, 200 capsules a day, all kinds of tinctures and this and that.

So do most people when they're doing the milk cleanse, do they stop their supplements and medications? Are there certain things that people let's say thyroid medication, for example, is that something that maybe people can stay on and still benefits from the cleanse? What kind of guidance would you give in terms of reducing the other things that they're doing?

[00:35:42.18] Jody L.: So first of all, and I’m saying this because I really mean it, not just because I have to say it. If there's somebody that's on that level of protocol, that person should talk to their medical practitioner before they do this. And we're totally available to talk to medical practitioners to help them understand what's best.

So I’ll tell you for me, I go off of everything with exception to my thyroid medicine. And I’ve had a couple of people that are on like hundreds and hundreds or whatever lots of supplements. They go off of all their supplements, especially all their herbals, but they do still take medication. So it really depends on the person, most of the people that I know go off of everything, just because it's all about the ecosystem in the gut and you really don't want any other ingredients participating in what's happening within the supplements.

[00:36:40.08] Scott: And would those initial restrictions would that be for the eight days? Or would that be recommended for the eight days plus the two and a half weeks?

[00:36:46.21] Jody L.: I honestly don't know what to say. For me, personally, for phase two, I usually reintroduce some of my supplements.

[00:36:56.05] Scott: Okay, beautiful.

[00:36:56.26] Jody L.: And then once I’m done with phase two, I go back to my normal protocol. But I also feel so good when I’m on it; I’m like a living, walking experiment. So I kind of like that I get to, it's like a metronome of what I feel like.

[00:37:13.09] Scott: Have you found that over time since you've done this now several times, that your need for other supplements and supportive interventions has reduced?

[00:37:22.18] Jody L.: Yes. So I have mold exposure, I know how to supplement back to balance. If I have some other type of biotoxic exposure, I know how to balance that. But now I’m at a point where it's more spot treatment than anything else.

[00:37:48.17] Scott: Beautiful. All right, so that's the first of three parts of your BIOTOXIC Rx that we're going to talk about; it's really awesome. So the next one is one that I’m also very excited about, and I have personally done a lot of work in the limbic system and vagal nerve realm.

And I think that that's really critical to help these kind of getting out of these limbic system trauma loops, and so on so. The other tool that you've introduced is NeuroPraxis, which is in the realm of neuroplasticity; it's incorporating Lisa Wimberger’s work, which is called NeuroSculpting. And so tell us about your personal experience that led you to finding NeuroPraxis and getting so excited about it.

[00:38:30.04] Jody L.: Okay. So I was feeling amazing, I had done the milk cleanse, and there was about like six months had gone by since my first milk cleanse, and I still felt awesome. I felt better than I had in many years. And I stepped in as the CEO of one of my businesses, not even really sure if I could based on like was it going to last, am I going to feel bad again? But I did it.

And for about two years, was just rocking and rolling, and we were doing our thing, and I was focused on business and living like my best life, right? But I was dealing with excruciating back pain. And I kind of accepted that it was just my body like that's just who I am. Like many people have a gnarly MRI, and I played sports when I was a kid and probably like did x, y, and z, right?

And then my sister got pregnant with twins, and she had twins.  And there are these babies, and I’m carrying babies, and I’m putting babies like in and out of cribs, and I’m like this is not okay, I don't like a lot of pain. So I went to some big sports medicine guy, and I’m like all right, stem cells, whatever like saws I don't know just fix it, I’m done with this, fix it. And this journey led me to a bunch of different people and PT, and this and that, I went and saw this guy. And I’m on his table for like 11 minutes, and he says to me you don't have physical pain, and I’m like, oh, what? Are you telling me my pain is not real? What are you talking about? He's like no, it's real, but it's neurological pain.

And I’m so offended; I mean, I am like you would have thought this guy stole my child. And so we have a brief conversation, and he's kind of like a gruff New Yorker. And I leave his office just appalled and irritated and frustrated and sad because I’m like this guy thinks that like my pain is in my head. Like I don't even understand how that could be possible like it hurts so badly. And it's negatively impacting my life.

And then there were a series of synchronistic experiences that happened that afternoon. Where a dear friend of mine, who's also one of the guardian angels in the wellness space that I mentioned earlier, randomly texts me, and she's like you have to check out this paper. There's all this new information about how the neurological system is being triggered by stress or PTSD or even like sensory inputs and triggering symptomology that isn't coming from an organism.

And I was like, and I look, and it's all about neuroplasticity and limbic looping and like their neurological pain system. And then a couple of hours later, my phone rings and someone else is like oh my god, you have to check out this woman's work her name is Lisa Wimberger you're going to be obsessed with her, etc. so I’m like this is weird.

Okay, I get it, again I’m paying attention. So I go on Amazon, I order her book like ''New Beliefs New Brain'' and I’m like I’m not going to learn about brain re-patterning from a book. So I get onto Google, and I go deep, and I find her email somehow, and it was not easy. And I write her this like dissertation; it's like a college acceptance essay.

And she calls me like that day, and she's like hi, I’m Lisa, I got your email. And I was like hi, where are you in the world? Somebody had said to me I think she's in Europe. So I’m preparing to like go find her. She's like I’m in Denver, my NeuroSculpting Institute's in Denver, and I’m like I’m in Denver. And I get in my car I drive a few blocks, and she and I meet. It happened to be Halloween, and I walked into her office in a hand-crocheted white unicorn onesie.

Which is you can imagine a little disarming. And we have like a really great laugh together, and immediately we're like sisters. And so I learned a little bit about NeuroSculpting, which is this amazing program that she developed out of her own survival from these incapacitating seizures that she was having. Where no doctor could help her or understand what was actually happening. So she invented this protocol, this five-step process that allows her through a guided meditation, very efficiently, to open the prefrontal cortex, connect the left and right brain hemispheres and enter into the midbrain and help an individual get out of that trauma pattern or that stress response. So I did four sessions with her, four 20-minute meditations.

I recorded them; I did each one a couple of times. My pain disappeared, like it has never come back, this is a year and a half ago. So I’m on an airplane one day, and I used to spend a lot of time on airplanes before the world was taken by a global pandemic. And I sat down, and I was like before I was in this world of creating food and beverage and supplements and stuff like that, I’ve always been designing experiences.

And like ever since I was 21, creating apps and software-hardware systems, custom for large-scale environments, and whatnot. So I was like we could create an app where we take every symptom I’ve ever heard anyone have. Whether it's from Lyme or mold or viruses or co-infections and like little things. Like I remember, I used to go home from treatment in New York City, and the lights would hurt my eyes so badly that I would wear my darkest sunglasses.

And I’d just be like crying under these sunglasses, because like I had to see how to get home. But I couldn't, like it was unbearable, right? And some of my friends had like rashes from things that they would eat or smell, and I just took everything I’d ever heard from anybody. And outlined it in these two sections In It and Beyond It. So In It being acute active insanity, Beyond It being prevention and maintenance. And I organized everything into the same categories, plus a section called the Feel Goods, which are like five-minute quickies.

And I called Lisa, and I was like I think we should make an app. And like going to the gym, every day or four times a week or whatever it is for whatever person, it's a practice. And people can use it to reset their brains, or they can use it as a spot treatment for lack of a better word, when they're having anxiety, or when their stomach is upset or when like me, there's light sensitivity, and biotoxicity will be our first library.

And we'll launch it, and people that like have the stuff that I have can use it, and it'll be beneficial in addition to whatever else they're doing. Whether they're on antibiotics or they're drinking milk, or they're wearing a frequency device, it'll help, and she was like great. And so we went into the studio for three days, and she recorded 75 hours worth of modules. And so we were building the app, and we were preparing to launch the app, and COVID happens. And so we're thinking like okay we just built this whole library for this tiny little subset of people that are like me. Like the 25% of the human population that has like a weird HLA type, right? And all of a sudden, the whole world is dealing with the fear of threat of or survival from this virus, this biotoxic thing.

This invisible thing around us. So Lisa and I and we have a third partner who does all of our design and programming; his name is Eric. We put it up on a web app, and we were like, let's just get this to as many people as we can. And so right now, if you go to NeuroPraxis.com, you can subscribe online or the entire libraries are there. It's so easy it's like 5 to 15 minute guided modules. I do it while I’m riding my bike; I do it while I’m walking. I do it while I’m sitting in my sauna-like.

I just do it while I’m doing other things. Some people use it as a meditation. And I’ll have pain in my joints, or I’ll have like some weird thing, there's a lot of smoke in the environment here right now, there are some weird triggers happening. I’ll find a module that's resonating with what's happening, I’ll do it once, or I’ll do it once every day for a week. I never look back.

[00:48:20.19] Scott: Yes. So I will admit that I have used it while doing a coffee enema.

[00:48:25.28] Jody L.: Good, perfect.

[00:48:28.11] Scott: Do you generally think that people should use headphones? Or is it okay to have your speaker a few feet away, and as long as you hear it? Or is it important that it really is in the ear?

[00:48:38.22] Jody L.: No. I think it's just important that you sit and go on the journey.

[00:48:43.12] Scott: Okay. And then when we look at limbic system, rewiring, when we think about things like the parasympathetic nervous system, there's a lot of interest now in ways to calm the vagus nerve. Would you say that it's affecting all of those things? Or is it more targeted on the limbic system? What's the scope of what it's trying to help support?

[00:49:04.00] Jody L.: It's affecting all of those things. And actually, on our site, there's a page called wisdom. And there's a bunch of links out to some of Lisa’s work and NeuroSculpting and vagal toning, everything. All of it is encompassed in the same body of work, but sometimes she'll do some specific like vagal toning for people that really need that connection of the vagus nerve, but it's addressing the entire system.

[00:49:33.02] Scott: Beautiful. Would you say from what you've observed that most people that are dealing with a biotoxin illness like Lyme disease or mold illness have some degree of limbic system involvement or would potentially benefit from some type of neuroplasticity work? And then what role do you think that stress and trauma play in these conditions that we experience?

[00:49:54.19] Jody L.: Well, so now that I am deep in this, it's like I had this like random idea, and Lisa and I are both like overachievers and all of a sudden we had this body of work, right? And to be totally honest with you, like I’m out there spreading awareness about NeuroPraxis because it's had such an efficient profound effect on my life and literally everybody that I give it to.

I mean, there are people that are really afraid of getting COVID that use it just in terms of like balancing their own psychology and fear, right? There are people who have all kinds of viruses and infections and stuff that use it, and they get better, and they get out of that loop.

So I have to understand through the science, and then through the first-hand experience of the feedback that we're getting. It's making people's lives so much better. Like they're not in that, they're getting out of their old stories.

[00:50:58.02] Scott: And that's interesting too because I think getting out of the story is a critical part of moving forward. Unfortunately, so many people are so attached to the story that it becomes almost impossible to move away from it. So I love that it's helping to support us letting go of the story, not being the illness. Maybe we have an illness, but we don't necessarily have to identify with it, take it on, and hold on to it so strongly.

[00:51:26.06] Jody L.: I agree with that. And I think that I’m also a realist about like making things super simple like there are other bodies of work that address neuroplasticity and brain reprogramming. I just like that the expectation; I remember years ago when I was like really getting into meditation, which I love. I mean, obviously, anything that's going to relax my sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system is healthy, right? But it's not reprogramming the brain.

And I remember I was in like somebody gifted me this meditation course with this amazing human. And I’m in there, and he said something that some people listening will probably recognize. He was like if your brain goes to something else if your brain goes to thinking about the email that you have to go compose, let it go there.

Because the email that you're composing while in a state of meditation is going to be that much better than if you didn't meditate, and so just do it, think about it and then like let it go, and go back in and it was very liberating. And I feel like our modality is really made for like when you're sitting in the bathtub or when you're on your bike, or when you're walking or when you're doing your dishes, it's not like go sit down and spend two hours doing this exercise.

Like it's just like turn it on and let it sink in. And sure, when I have my earphones in, and I’m sitting on my couch, it's probably a little bit more present than if I’m riding my bicycle or if I’m just have it on a speaker and I’m moving through my kitchen. But either way, it's helping, right? It's helping to re-pattern.

[00:53:18.11] Scott: And those of us that were clearly typed A+ personalities that are now recovering type A- personalities certainly appreciate the efficiency of multitasking in our healing process, right?

[00:53:30.10] Jody L.: Totally.

[00:53:31.11] Scott: So would you say that for people to get the kind of optimal benefit from this, is it something you would recommend doing like one program a day? Should people do it a few times a week, what's the sweet spot?

[00:53:43.12] Jody L.: So again, it goes back to like what's realistic. So for the people that go to the gym six out of seven days a week, they understand that takes a real commitment, right? And NeuroPraxis is the same. You're training the brain and conditioning the brain to be in an optimal state. So I’m a realist again on time because I don't have that much of it.

I try to use NeuroPraxis like four to five times a week. When I am not going through anything specific, I use the beyond it section. And sometimes I’ll just hit a feel good and do something. There's one called Glow that's my favorite, and it's just like this feel-good kind of like big energy body resonance. It is what you make of it, right? For somebody that's a little less Hubuduh hubuduh than I am, it's just more of like a current.

[00:54:35.21] Scott: And you are glowing by the way, so.

[00:54:37.10] Jody L.: Oh, thank you; it's all the milk. But if I have something that comes up, so if I have something going on in my gut or if I have some pain in my joints like I mentioned, my sister's a pretty hardcore fitness instructor, and I work out with her a lot. And she beats me up in the best kind of way.

And so sometimes I’ll even do a NeuroPraxis for body and bones, where I’ll just like really focus on my joints and my bones. And if I’m having some pain, I’ll do it for the same module for a whole week. And I’ll just give that area of the body that much more focus.

[00:55:18.26] Scott: Beautiful. So your next project and the third part of this BIOTOXIC Rx is what you're calling MYCOMEFREE. And so many of us myself included that at one point finally identified chronic Lyme disease, later learned that mold illness was such a big part of the picture and quite honestly, I think for many people dealing with Lyme co-infections, the mold and water damage building illness is probably more significant than the Lyme and co-infections. And so talk to us about MYCOMEFREE, and how that kind of rounds out this BIOTOXIC Rx trifecta.

[00:55:54.00] Jody L.: So I totally agree with you, and it's also the more challenging of the three. But it's in process, which is exciting. So I’m very lucky because I have always worked from anywhere that I am. So I’m a bit of a global nomad, and my work takes me all over the world. And I’ve got like my suitcase, and I’ve got my toiletries, and then I’ve got my entire little biohacking case with me.

Most people don't live like that and aren't comfortable like that. So when I’ve been on mold protocols, I can just make it work. Because I kind of control my daily schedule and my whereabouts. But most people can't do that. Over the last couple of years, a lot of people will connect other people to me, right?  They're like please, like my brother-in-law's been in bed for three years, we, please talk to him. Or I would accidentally mention my like healing journey on a podcast, and then I’d be like, you know what cut that out.

I can't actually share these solutions yet with anybody; let's not put that out there. But then the podcast host would be like I beg you like my brother's been sick for this many years, please help, right? So like everybody's one degree away from somebody that needs these tools because there's so little understanding. One of the things I realized as I was talking to these people because I love helping people was that the mold protocol that I do is completely not realistic for most people.

Like I’m like every 20 minutes, there's an input, or there's an output, or there's a binder there's something that's like nourishing. And so I totally simplified it, and I created there are three packets, one when you wake up, one between breakfast and lunch, one between lunch and dinner, and one before bed. And Scott, you and I probably would customize ours a little bit, because our knowledge base is more specific.

But for the person that doesn't know that much, that doesn't have access to a highly specialized team of practitioners or experts. And that knows that they've had exposure, clears their environment, but doesn't necessarily know how to clear their body; it's for that. Or I really have formulated it for like I will use it if I walk into a space, so I’m like a mold sniffing dog like I don't smell it, but I can feel it on my skin, and I can know exactly what's where because I’m sensitive. I’ll use it, this exact protocol, if I have a little bit of exposure. If I rent a house like on the beach in LA or something, and I’m like, oh, it's perfect for that.

[00:58:56.08] Scott: So is the focus to help with the toxicity side or the mycotoxin burden that we get from water-damaged buildings? Or is it also you mentioned earlier this idea of colonization, which is still debated even in the mold practitioner community.

When we constantly inhale things like aspergillus from our environment, can we colonize with those in the sinuses and the gut, for example? And thus, when we move to an environment that's completely pure, we can still have this mycotoxin production factory in our bodies. And so is it also helping with that potential of colonization, or is it more focused on the toxicity aspect?

[00:59:37.09] Jody L.: No, it's more focused on mycotoxins and the immediate toxicity. I think that the topic of colonization is something that is more of like you and I can geek out on, and as everybody learns more about it, understand it more, there will be more and more science.

But I also think that that's a more advanced treatment that somebody really needs to be under a practitioner's care. And the intent of MYCOMEFREE is to be more like the milk cleanse, where it's a supplement to our day-to-day lives that we can control. And I still think that everybody should be working with their practitioner to understand if all the ingredients fit with everything they're on, but it's a bit more of like a light. It's like mold treatment light.

[01:00:23.17] Scott: And I know this is your current project; I personally have been drooling to get my hands on it at some point here soon. So when do you think MYCOMEFREE will be available for people.

[01:00:34.06] Jody L.: I’m hoping that in like Q1 of next year. So both the milk cleanse and NeuroPraxis were delayed and launched during COVID, and things in the world of supplements are crazy right now. And it's hard to get super clean ingredients; there are ingredient backups. There's a lot of people that are taking supplements to bolster their immune systems and their wellness, which is great. So I’m sort of in that like surrender to the process almost.

[01:01:09.01] Scott: No, it's hard. I mean, some companies even getting bottles to put the product in has been a challenge and getting labels. I mean, it's amazing how much the whole process has been delayed because of all the supply chain issues.

So this has been a great conversation about these three new things that you're making available, The Milk Cleanse, the NeuroPraxis piece, the MYCOMEFREE. When you have someone that you're connected to that's dealing with the microbial burden of, let's say Lyme disease co-infections, for example. Are there some tools that you found helpful, and if someone comes to you today and they say they're dealing with Lyme? Or maybe you are starting your own journey over again; what would your toolbox look like?

[01:01:51.22] Jody L.: So I’m going to separate all of the products from my personal health journey, for the sake of protecting the companies and any claims. One of the best parts of having these companies now is that it's not the best part, but I actually can't really talk to people about any of their sickness, because it would be beyond the scope of legality.

But I can tell you my story, and there are a couple of things that I share with other people when it comes to like the successes. There is a frequency device that I think you might be familiar with called the WAVE device from FREmedica. And a friend of mine called me at the end of last year when I was describing to you that like crazy back pain I was having.

I assumed that my Lyme had been triggered; I have no idea if it was or wasn't. Like I discovered Lisa and NeuroSculpting and started doing these amazing like limbic re-patterning modules, and my pain was gone, right? So I did do a milk cleanse at that time, made me feel amazing. I didn't have any herxy reactions to it when I did it. But then, after all of that, I started wearing this device. And it's a device that uses energetic frequencies. And it has been programmed; there it is.

[01:03:20.01] Scott: I knew it was here somewhere because I literally wore it 90 minutes earlier today, and I’m like what did I do with it?

[01:03:25.24] Jody L.: And I love it. And so anybody that calls me and is like what should I do? I’m like okay, do the milk cleanse; it'll give you like a great reset. Start to do NeuroPraxis as often as you can, and really focus on like pinpointing some of the things and get the wave device. And the way that it's programmed is the initial 90 days, the first 30 days is detox 30 through 60 is programmed specifically for like the library of infections and co-infections related to Lyme disease.

And then 60 to 90 is this like cellular reprogramming. And I have now tried a ton of, I mean listen over the years; it's like I’ve got rife machines and copper paddles and I’ve got all these weird things. And honest, if can say maybe some of them did x, y and z this was the most immediate like positive hit. I mean, the first 30 days that I was on the WAVE device, my sister called me bugs bunny. Like I have a lot of energy, to begin with, but it was like triple time.

And I tend to respond to things in a more positive way than a negative way. So if things don't work, they just don't work, they don't really take me down. I don't let them take me down. But when I went on the WAVE, and so now I have it, and I just use it. Like if ever right now with the smoke, I notice I’m putting it on a little bit because I feel like I want my cells to have a little regeneration. But I love it. The other thing that I really love is phosphatidylcholine.

[01:05:11.07] Scott: Had a tablespoon this morning.

[01:05:13.09] Jody L.: Yes. And the IV drips that I get, the pushes that I get. If I’m in a more acute state, or if I find out that I’ve been in an environment with a lot of molds, that's one of my go-tos. Like I'll do eight to ten treatments over a couple of weeks of like really good quality phosphatidylcholine, and that helps me quite a bit. I really rely on clean food. I am very particular about what I put my system, and so like clean nutrition is a big part of kind of how I balance in the day-to-day.

[01:05:56.21] Scott: So, as we start wrapping up, I wanted to ask you what hope can you offer for those people that are still struggling with conditions similar to what you experienced.

[01:06:06.19] Jody L.: So I think for me, the thing that set me free from feeling really hopeless because I spent many years hiding behind my smile and pretending everything was fine and it really was not. When I realized that there was never going to be one thing, one protocol that the same thing was never going to do the same thing twice or three times or four times.

And that life, whether you're like us or you're a marathon triathlete Olympian; everything is about balance. And so the minute that I really let that sink in, and realize that every system that makes up the whole of my body, and that's physical and emotional and psychological and energetic, that was in a constant state of balancing and rebalancing.

And that I can do things that make me feel amazing, and I can do things that make me not feel amazing. But that it's okay; it's just these subtle tweaks and tunings that was the ultimate freedom for me. Because I took the pressure off myself of oh, I’m going to do this thing. And I’m going to spend all this money, and I’m going to do this thing, and it's going to make me better, but then it doesn't make you better, right? Or I’m going to do this thing.

Oh, this one's going to save me, it saved her, but it doesn't save me. Because it's really about me. Like what I eat isn't going to be the same thing that you eat, what I do for fun isn't going to be the same thing that you do for fun, right? What I do for fitness isn't going to be the same thing for your body.

And so I invite everybody to just recognize that like of all the things we've talked about, I hope that everybody uses them, tries them, feels amazing with them. And it might be in conjunction with the stuff that you're doing or other things I don't even know about, and it's just about that like constant balancing of our environment in relation to the environment around us.

[01:08:30.05] Scott: I love that you use the terms balance and imbalance, more so than illness or battle or war that it really is, just what can we do to kind of find balance again. And I think a lot of times, if we can remove those significant things that are creating imbalance in the body, the innate capacity of the body to heal is immense. And I think we forget that sometimes, I think we think we have to solve every single problem. And in my experience, fortunately, that's not the case; we just need to enable the body to do what it was designed to do.

[01:09:03.05] Jody L.: Agree.

[01:09:03.21] Scott: Yes, beautiful. So this last question it's the same for every guest, and I think you've already essentially answered it. But maybe you can think just what you're doing currently. What are some of the key things that you do on a daily basis in support of your own health?

[01:09:21.00] Jody L.: I dance like every day, a lot. Sound and the balance of sound and sound systems is like one of the most important things to me. So I try to make an effort to like have a proper dance party every day.

[01:09:40.12] Scott: In a 129 shows, I think that's the first time someone said dance, I love it.

[01:09:46.09] Jody L.: I mean listen, I make my smoothies, and I eat my healthy. I take my supplements, and I sit in my sauna, and I work out with my sister, and I do all the things. But the single most important thing that kind of keeps my mind, my heart and my body like really in myself, in my true nature, is my connection to music and movement.

[01:10:12.10] Scott: Beautiful, that's awesome. I am so excited to have had you on the show today. I think like many of us, your journey; your pain has become your passion, your mess has become your message. I love that you've taken all the things that are your gifts and creating businesses and pulling people together and all of that.

And now applied that to helping other people to minimize their struggle, to improve their health, it's just such a beautiful thing. And so I honor you, I’m very excited about the tools you have available. I’m also excited about the upcoming MYCOMEFREE and probably many other things that you're going to do in the future. So thank you so much, Jody, for being here with us today; I appreciate it.

[01:10:54.09] Jody L.: Thank you so much for having me; it's really nice to be able to share my story with somebody who understands it at so many different levels.

[01:11:01.29] Scott: Beautiful, thank you.

[01:11:03.22] To learn more about today's guest, visit JodydLevy.com that's Jody J-o-d-y-D-Levy JodyDLevy.com.

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