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My guest for this episode is Dr. Simon Yu.  Simon Yu, MD is a board-certified internist who founded Prevention and Healing, Inc., to offer integrative medicine to patients from St. Louis, across the nation, and around the world.  His two books, AcciDental Blow Up in Medicine: Battle Plan for Your Life (2019), and Accidental Cure: Extraordinary Medicine for Extraordinary Patients (2010), give unique insights from his work at Prevention and Healing; learning Eastern, Western and innovative medical technologies; and 25 years in the US Army Reserve Medical Corps, from which he retired as a full colonel. Dr. Yu received his medical degree from the School of Medicine at the University of Missouri-Columbia and completed residency training at St. Mary's Health Center in St. Louis. He has a B.S. from Washington University and an M.S. through a Washington University Medical Center-University of Missouri-St. Louis joint program, where he conducted research on Immunology.  He is a leader in detecting and treating dental, fungal, and parasite problems overlooked by conventional medicine.  Dr. Yu lectures around the world and has studied Biological Medicine extensively in Europe. He organized ten International Integrative Medicine Conferences in St. Louis.  Dr. Yu trains physicians, dentists and prescribing health professionals in Acupuncture Meridian Assessment (AMA), an updated, digitized method that provides forensic insights into problems underlying many chronic illnesses. AMA can be used to detect and monitor treatment of parasite and fungal problems, hidden dental infections, immune and toxicity reactions to dental and medical device metals and chemicals, and the growing epidemic of allergy-immunology problems.  

Key Takeaways

  • How is recovering health similar to approaches used in the military?
  • What are top strategies for addressing root causes of disease?
  • What is Acupuncture Meridian Assessment?
  • What is the role of environmental toxins and the terrain in health challenges?
  • Are most parasites an issue of the GI tract?
  • Can parasites be treated with natural medicine or are prescription medications required?
  • What are the latest thoughts on rope worms?
  • Why are fungi so difficult to get rid of and often require a multi-faceted treatment approach?
  • Are binders and antifungals helpful?
  • Do parasites and fungi play a role in cancer?
  • What role do root canals and cavitations play in illness?
  • What role does Lyme disease play in those with chronic conditions?
  • How are autism, ALS, SIBO/SIFO, Morgellons and other conditions approached?

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AcciDental Blow Up in Medicine: Battle Plan for Your Life
Accidental Cure: Extraordinary Medicine for Extraordinary Patients

Interview Date

August 14, 2019


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[00:00:01] Intro: Welcome to BetterHealthGuy Blogcasts empowering your better health. And now here's Scott your Better Health Guy. The content of this show is for informational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any illness or medical condition.

Nothing in today's discussion is meant to serve as medical advice or is information to facilitate self-treatment. As always, please discuss any potential health related decisions with your own personal medical authority.

[00:00:34] Scott: Hello, everybody and welcome to episode number 103 of the BetterHealthGuy Blogcast series. Today's guest is Dr. Simon Yu, the topic of the show is Accidental Blow Up in Medicine. Dr. Simon Yu is a Board-Certified internist who founded Prevention and Healing Incorporated to offer integrative medicine to patients from St. Louis, across the nation, and around the world.

His two books: Accidental Blow Up Medicine: Battle Plan for Your Life and Accidental Cure: Extraordinary Medicine for Extraordinary Patients, give unique insights from his work at Prevention and Healing, learning Eastern, Western, and innovative medical technologies and 25 years in the US Army Reserve Medical Corps, from which he retired as a full Colonel. 

Dr. Yu received his medical degree from the School of Medicine at the University of Missouri Columbia and completed residency training at St. Mary's Health Center in St. Louis. He has a BS from Washington University and an MS through a Washington University Medical Center-University of Missouri St. Louis joint program where he conducted research on immunology.

He is a leader in detecting and treating dental, fungal, and parasite problems overlooked by conventional medicine. Dr. Yu lectures around the world and has studied biological medicine extensively in Europe. He organized 10 International integrative medicine conferences held in St. Louis.

Dr. Yu trains physicians, dentists, and prescribing health professionals on Acupuncture Meridian Assessment or AMA - an updated digitize method that provides forensic insights into problems underlying many chronic illnesses. AMA can be used to detect and monitor treatment of parasite and fungal problems, hidden dental infections, immune and toxicity reactions to dental and medical device metals and chemicals, and the growing epidemic of allergy immunology problems. And now my interview with Dr. Simon Yu.

Parasites, fungi and dental issues are three of the commonly overlooked factors that may hold people back from achieving optimal health. Unfortunately, conventional medicine often overlooks these important keys. But fortunately for us, we have Dr. Simon Yu MD today. Not only does MD Stanford Medical Doctor, but in his case medical detective.

Using his Acupuncture Meridian Assessment Techniques, he's often able to find important clues that many others may have missed. Thanks for being here today Dr. Yu.

[00:03:09] Dr. Yu: Well, thanks for inviting me.

[00:03:12] Scott: Talk to us about how you first got interested in parasites and how this interest emerged out of your work in the military and treating sick military personnel.

[00:03:21] Dr. Yu: I'm a internist and I do look for parasite but I never find when I do certain tests anything shows up significant. I never thought parasite was anything significant in my practice in the United States, just like everybody else. I was in the military, US army as a reservist for 25 years.

Year 2001, I was in Bolivia, just showed mission, two-week training. Training people for Bolivia and the Indian natives. We give everybody parasite medication. We are in Oruro, we go to small town, people line up we’re the vet, we’re the dentist, and we’re the medical team.

Medical team, we giving out all those parasite medication every day for about 10,000 people. We use either Pyrantel pamoate or Mebendazole, they’re the two least expensive parasite medication available just dispensing for US Army. Since then I've been using parasite medication.

Story goes like this. I was doing Acupuncture Meridian Assessment before I went to 2001. I've been doing for 25-30 years. If somebody have a IBS, intestinal problem, I check the meridian system showing in large intestine is out of balance. I put them on natural parasite remedies, like one would. Like Wormwood, black walnut, clove oil and patient gets happy. When patient gets happy with the IBS symptom going away and I'm happy.

It was until 2001 when I came back from 2001 from Bolivia, I decided to try maybe parasite medication how they respond. So I use Pyrantel pamoate or Mebendazole depending how they test. The difference is that patient gets better with the IBS like symptoms, but also, they will say, “Oh, by the way, maybe it’s a coincidence that my asthma went away.” Or, “By the way, my chronic fatigue, my Fibromyalgia got better.”

I got a phone call from my patient saying she came for chronic fatigue but she didn't tell me her main problem is actually MS. Says, “My neurologist said I don't have an MS anymore. I had an MRI done and there's a no more brain lesions.” While cancer patients their condition become more stable. It’s all just phenomenal. With migraine headache, I see all the time the migraine headache goes away.

This is what… by the way, besides my IBS, there are so many other problem went away on spontaneously using parasite medications. That's how I got into a parasite medication.

[00:06:17] Scott: How about your military background influences the way in which you practice medicine today?

[00:06:24] Dr. Yu: Well, I'm not sure about that because military medicine is basically same. No more different than any internal medicine practice. My biggest difference is that my experience in Bolivia when I was already doing meridian testing, and I connected that when I see this phenomenon of the, “By the way, my asthma went away, my migraine headache went away.” Connected that maybe there's something to do with parasite in many unexplainable medical problems.

[00:06:57] Scott: But how about the approach in terms of the military? I know your book you say battle plan for your life. Do you view recovering from a chronic health challenge similar to a battle?

[00:07:09] Dr. Yu: Actually, yes. My second book, the new book, talking about as a battle plan. That's right. Now, I was in… a command and staff general college course at Fort Leavenworth. Is a two-year program as a reservist and I only complete 50%. I was busy getting caught up. But anyway, I didn't want to waste my military training. Also, to use the analogy from the military training, looking for what I call asymmetric threat. The enemy that you don't know where they are at, where they are hiding.

I use this parasite, fungal, dental problem as a metaphor as asymmetric threat. I was explaining the esoteric can relate to as a unknown threat that we overlook.

[00:08:04] Scott: What are some of the main conditions that people seek you out to help them with? Do they come to you to solve a medical mystery? Or do they come to you because they know that you have expertise in parasites and dental issues?

[00:08:17] Dr. Yu: Whether I like it or I not, I have a sort of a reputation as a guy to look for parasite problem. I don't have any formal training in parasite, just purely from experience from the military, and then applying that in different combination give a better successful outcome.

One thing I learned sort of a hard way is that it's hard to get rid of this parasite if you have a dental infection. I've been doing this DNA test. Often these people have also parasite in the dental as a cavitation and periodontal problems. When you do DNA test, often we’ll see not only all those different microbes, but parasite as a protozoa, as an entamoeba that go down to the gut. It is very hard to break their cycle.

When I fail to treat my patient for a parasite problem, they'll often have a dental problem that was not addressed yet.

[00:09:18] Scott: Very interesting. What are your top strategies for addressing the root causes of disease or what you call the hidden enemies?

[00:09:28] Dr. Yu: I do acupuncture meridian assessment. The meridian system has been done for thousands of years. I call it 5000 years old disruptive new technology. So old become so new. Now with a modern technology, we have electronic device. Now we can measure meridian system more precisely.

[00:09:53] Scott: I know in the book, you talk about your focus looking at parasites, fungi, detoxification, dental infections, food allergies, nutrition, the emotional backdrop, and also the medical industry itself in terms of potential contributors to health conditions. You look at quite a broad number of things, and the way that you approach your detective work.

[00:10:19] Dr. Yu: That is correct because when people come to see me for whether they have MS, Parkinson's, ALS, or cancer or some unusual conditions. I try to tell my patient, “I'm going to make a conscious effort to ignore your diagnosis and ignore your symptoms. Let's look into the underlying problem.” I'm relying on meridian system to go out of the subtle energy field, what the problem might be.

I check for 40 main acupuncture point, and that's known for thousands of years. It's not a new information. There are a lot of wisdom associated with the meridian system. We're just exploring the tie into the field to explore the whole the matrix system. I can pick up those information that people didn't address before.

[00:11:10] Scott: Let's talk about detoxification. It seems that we as a society are becoming sicker and sicker. What are some of the main contributors to illness that we're facing today? And are many of our modern problems the result of our toxic environment?

[00:11:28] Dr. Yu: Scott, this whole topic, I always look for in kinds of layer after layer. I'm looking it as an infection as a first line I am trying to get rid of, infection as a part of the detox. Just one of the fast way to actually rebalancing the meridian system except dental problem and the allergy immunology point. This allergy immunology point and dental point isn't classical Chinese acupuncture point. That was developed by German acupuncturist, Dr. Reinhard Voll.

They always talk about dental and allergy point. And dental is what I see not only the hidden dental materials like almagam, mercury, cadmium, palladium, nickel or those environmental toxins, and infections, especially parasite, people don't think about in their tooths.

In the allergy immunology point, this is what I see now in the allergy problem. I see heavy metal problem, fungal problem, mycotoxins, environmental toxins, and even electromagnetic field. They are very sensitive, the immune system I can pick up through the sick and how they respond.

[00:12:51] Scott: Do you think then that the terrain is the reason that some of these microbes, like parasites then become hosted within us? Is it the toxic environment that we really need to also focus on for long term health success?

[00:13:05] Dr. Yu: That is correct. In military analogy, we will be controlling the terrain. Not only you need to know who your enemy is, you have to know about yourself. Controlling the terrain, in the military, they’re rely on night operation, controlling the space, controlling the cybernetic system, and cyber security.

In terms of different biological terrain, are we looking for are you acidic? Are you alkaline? Is your redox potential is out of balance?... all those parameter as a biological terrain, the controlling. No matter what you do, even if they were normal, perfect pH, even if it was normal redox potentials. If you have resitivity out of line, then nothing works. If your redox is out of balance, perfect pH and resistivity, your body just doesn't function well.

[00:14:03] Scott: What are some of the strategies for dealing with the body burden of environmental toxins and shifting that terrain that we just talked about in the direction of health? Do you use things like coffee enemas, or colonics, liver gallbladder flushes or oil filling in your practice?

[00:14:19] Dr. Yu: Absolutely, based on what the meridian showing. I will go through the sequence and the old pulling because I see dental problem all the time as I’m pulling the toxins from your oral cavity. But they only get through the superficial level. If you have oral cavitations, then oral pulling is just not good.

Your bowel has to move. I always put on some kind of intestinal cleansing to make sure you have a one or two bowel movements a day. Then you teach them how to do gallbladder, liver flush, especially those people who are going through the parasite, fungal cleansing. I go through the cycle of gall bladder, liver flush. Some of those people are highly motivated with somebody who is really sick make them to do coffee enema.

[00:15:08] Scott: Excellent. Many different types of chronic illnesses, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, Lyme disease, MS, Parkinson's, so many of these where parasites potentially play a role. Do you find that parasites do play a role in essentially all of those chronic illnesses? And if so, how much benefit do people get from treating the parasites in terms of recovery health?

[00:15:31] Dr. Yu: I think most people with all those chronic illness, what is Lyme or neurologic disorder or cancer. I see at least 90% of the time, we have more of a parasite problem and dental problem. Scott, I just never separate dental and parasite. It’s a continual spectrum of the whole process.

Possibly, I don't separate them out, but I see all the time. My recurrent theme is always I’m looking for the infection. If you treat one, but not the other one, you just cannot break that cycle.

[00:16:12] Scott: What are some of the symptoms you commonly see with parasitic infestations and I know people oftentimes think a lot about physical symptoms, but is there a portion of psychiatric presentations or symptoms that can also be associated to parasites?

[00:16:29] Dr. Yu: Right. I wrote a few articles on that called parasite and mind control, parasite and mental illness. We think it’s a psychiatric medication turn out to be have some anti parasitic activity. This kind of an interesting phenomena. It was written by a doctor, I believe, Torrey's, I forgot his name. But anyway, so yes.

I just had a patient, nun, just saw today, and that she got this chronic bronchial symptoms and cough. I put her on parasite medication because her large intestinal meridian and lung meridian was out of balance. But she took only about three days and she got scared because she got exacerbation of bronchial symptoms and got short-winded. Go to the emergency room, chest X ray.

They gave her steroids, antibiotics, it doesn't get any better. Getting worse. And I saw again, same problem, large intestine and lung. And I was telling parasite would have a reaction to control her mind not to take the medications. Is parasite medication not good for you controlling your mind?

She got a taste and she said how no matter how tough it is going to be soon to finish the parasite medication. I think she’s going to do very well. I've seen many, these bronchial symptoms goes away when you take the parasite medication.

[00:17:56] Scott: Many people think of parasites as primarily a gastro intestinal issue. But isn't it true that most parasites in the body actually live outside of the GI tract?

[00:18:07] Dr. Yu: That is correct. That's one of the major misnomer because parasite will migrate. They love to go to the lung, to the liver, pancreas, spleen, even to the brain, eyes. I have a patient who is going blind, they’re losing eyesight. They can see parasite in the eye and they’re losing eyesight every week. Told her by the ophthalmologist to apply for social security for blind.

I saw as emergency base from Iowa, put her on triple parasite medication. And she gained her eyesight back. Just think about the parasite in the eye.

[00:18:47] Scott: Wow. Are you more concerned generally with the smaller protozoan parasites or the larger parasites like the worms and helminths or nematodes? How important are these in the work that you do with patients?

[00:19:02] Dr. Yu: Actually, I do not separate them out. I think this might make you some time hard to believe by my colleague because I'll go through the meridian testing.

Usually large intestine, small intestine is usually larger ones like the tapeworm, nematode. If I'm picking up the signal in the liver, gallbladder, pancreas that can be liver flukes, pancreatic flukes, or maybe nematode or possibly protozoa.

If it is in the brain, it can be anything. It can be actually flukes, tapeworm, nematode, or even protozoa infections. I'll go through the meridian testing, what kind of parasite we’re dealing with. One other thing is, I'm not really interested in naming the name of the parasite. We have a fixation.

We have to have a naming what kind of the parasite to treat. For me. I'm rely on the meridian system. We know what parasite medication doesn’t work. So I'm reverse engineering pharmacology’s information. If the meridian testing response, gallbladder meridian with the Praziquntel and Albendazole, then I'm dealing with maybe tapeworm and flukes or maybe a nematode.

If they respond to Alinia or Tinidazole, maybe I'm dealing with a protozoa. I have some idea of what kind of parasite I'm dealing with, but not sure to naming the name of the parasite. That's not important for me.

[00:20:40] Scott: Some people would argue that not all parasites are bad. The may be concentrating heavy metals or maintaining the balance of TH1 and TH2 in the body. Some people even use helminthic therapies to address autoimmune diseases. Do we all have some degree of parasites? And how do we know when we really need to get rid of them?

[00:21:01] Dr. Yu: Right by definition, parasite is taking advantage of you. But there is also, like Dr. Weinstock from Iowa. Now he's in Boston in I think, Tuft University and he's using this pig whipworm to reduce this colitis. That's another way to do it.

But for me, I like to get rid of the parasite. And by definition, parasite, something you're…. People less in India, maybe most in the United States, are more prone to have a parasite problem. But their diet make it adapt to dealing with the parasite. So they can co-exist with parasite with those spicy food they eat. But when they come to the United

States, and eating less, less classical, traditional cuisine by eating more American food, they become symptomatic.

They're going back to India, eating their own Indian food, the symptom kind of dissipate again. It's not just a parasite, the kind of a diet we eat. In America, we don't have that kind of diet to counteract the actual parasite and so it co-exists.

[00:22:19] Scott: Do you feel that parasites can be effectively treated with natural options, herbal options? Do you feel that the pharmaceuticals like Alinia, Ivermectin are critical? Or do you use a combination of the two? And do we ever fully eradicate them? Or are we essentially reducing them and then letting the immune system manage them over time?

[00:22:19] Dr. Yu: Right. Ideally, I would love to choose just the natural remedies. But what I learned from this, Bolivia is that there's another quantum level. This parasite has been evolving much faster than we can evolve, what the nature can evolve. They become synthetic Cyborg. They require synthetic drugs to kill them. That's how I look at things.

I still use natural parasite remedies to support my patients, especially within the maintenance space. I still recommend people to use natural parasite remedies as a part of maintenance therapy. But by the time people have cancer, MS, ALS, I don't have time to use natural remedies alone. It may take six months or a year to eradicate them. I need to move quick and fast.

[00:23:36] Scott: The topic of rope worms is a common discussion over the past several years. Some think of it as a parasite, others a biofilm community. People definitely see something coming out. I'm curious, what are your latest thoughts on rope worms?

[00:23:52] Dr. Yu: I talk to some of the parasitologists about that. Dr. Volinskly from Russia talked about this rope worm, this DNA. I think there's a different combination of microorganism. I don't think he's a unique, a true parasite. I tell my patient it may not be, maybe it's unknown, but I'll go through the meridian testing.

I go through the cleansing and all those mucous come out and some people think is a rope worm. But I don't argue with my patient. I just say, “We're going to go through all the cleansing until we can balance the meridian system.”

[00:24:33] Scott: Let's talk a little bit about fungi and yeast. Fungi can be yeasts; they can be molds. In your exploration of fungi, is there a connection between fungal colonization of the body with organisms such as Aspergillus, and exposure to water damaged environments of the home the workplace, the school? How much of a role does our environment around us play in terms of the fungal organisms within us?

[00:25:00] Dr. Yu: First of all, fungus with us. It's almost impossible. We all have some degree of a fungal exposure to it and mycotoxins. When you go to like a fungal conference or Environmental Medicine focusing on mold and fungal mycotoxins, they spend way too much time on more the environment with a water damage roof and basement as a major source.

When they measure mycotoxins, like ochratoxin and different fungal toxins, I raise my hand says, “Can you tell the difference between the mycotoxins coming from your own internal body or from the environment, from the outside?” There’s no way you can differentiate that whether it's coming from the body, environment or from your internal diet.

Your body have this fungus growing in your gut and rest of your body. Fungus have a dimorphic, they have two different life form either as a yeast or as a mold and as a Candida.

If you treat for as a yeast, then let’s say Nystatin or Fluconazole, they turn into mold. They require to change their different life form. It will go after with Itraconazole.
After a while I realize that not to hit them hard, I had to use Nystatin, Fluconazole, and Itraconazole at the same time. Otherwise, you change their form.

[00:26:30] Scott: Wow.

[00:26:32] Dr. Yu: My observation has been I'm looking from evolution point of view. We have a virus, we have bacteria, then we have a protozoa, fungi and parasite. If you use antibiotics to get rid of bacterial infections, is create evolution more into the fungal phase. But if you start with a parasite, they’re the top of the food chain, it will be down-regulate to fungus.

After a while I go through the parasite cleansing. I go through the fungus. Then get rid of the fungus, then you go to bacterial phase. I rather go from the top of the chain there's a parasite first, fungus and any other protozoa parasite problem.

[00:27:19] Scott: When you're exploring urinary mycotoxins, do you do urinary mycotoxins testing? Or do you find that the information around mold, fungus, yeast, mycotoxins that you can get that from your acupuncture meridian assessment toolbox?

[00:27:34] Dr. Yu: Actually, I do both. In the meridian testing, I usually pick up the signal through the allergy immunology point. This is what I pick up heavy metal, fungal problem or environmental toxin. So I test them. If they respond to, let's say the normal reading is at 50. And the allergy immunology point is at 25.

Then if I use Nystatin, minimum response. If I use the DMPS, minimum response. But if I test a list of different combinations, let's say I use Nystatin and Fluconazole and the reading go back to about almost normal at 45. If I combine three combination, Itraconazole, Fluconazole, and Nystatin, we'll go to 50 then I know we're dealing with a really serious fungal problem.

I usually recommend get the mycotoxins level but I don't push to do it. I treat them but if you know what we are dealing with, will be easier, then I can deal with a binder like a Cholesytramine, charcoal and all those other binders. But I don't initiating until I have identified what kind of mycotoxins we may be dealing with.

[00:28:50] Scott: Do you find that when there is a colonization that this is a scenario where you also generally tend to need pharmaceutical interventions? Or can some of the natural tools fully address these issues?

[00:29:01] Dr. Yu: Depends on the degree of the problem. I'm an internist, I'm a medical doctor. I'm using medication. I always still use some antifungal natural remedies. I don't want to mention different name, specific company. But Oregano oil is another good example to use as part of the antifungal remedies. But I never use one particular brand alone. I usually use a different combination to rebalance the meridian system.

Parasite and Fungus have a symbiotic relationship to protect each other. Fungus may create a matrix that protects some of those parasite. After a while, I realized that after you go through the fungal cleansing, and then go through the parasite, you go to the multiple layers to get to the root of your problem.

[00:29:53] Scott: Let's talk a little bit about cancer. From your perspective, what are some of the key reasons that so many people today are dealing with various cancers?

[00:30:03] Dr. Yu: That's a little bit touchy, so I have to be careful what I'm saying. I just published a paper about using antiparasitic medications and antifungal medications with great success with treating cancer patients. I believe cancer is a metabolic disease. Dr. Warburg talks about it. Thomas Seyfried published his book on metabolic disease.

Cancer is a metabolic disease, but also, I think cancer have all the characteristic of a metabolic parasite. There was a dramatic response to antifungal and antiparasitic medications. And then all those environmental toxins we're dealing with. By the time I have a cancer patient, it will be like this.

I just saw a lady from Hawaii. She got third recurrent breast cancer. She already have a chemo. She didn't do the radiation. She had a lumpectomy, third time. She's scared. If you don't correct the underlying problem, the cancer always come back. When I check her, she got the root canal going through the breast meridian.

She’s got heavy, heavy, dose of environmental toxins. She’s got extremely high mercury, all just environmental toxins, the pesticides, insecticides that create an environment for cancer to grow. We have to address them all to give her best chance that the cancer will not come back.

My book talks about many different cases of dealing with and never dealing with going after the tumor itself is always removing the underlying problem.

[00:31:46] Scott: I know that Ivermectin is a medication commonly used for parasites and also can help in some cancers. Is the mechanism that Ivermectin may be helpful in cancer? Do you think it's the result of addressing parasites? Or is there another mechanism where Ivermectin might be helpful in cancer?

[00:32:04] Dr. Yu: Yeah, I think it's playing dual function. Remember specifically for a parasite problem, but it also affects PAK1 kinase that's needed for most of the 70% of the tumor to grow as a part of the enzyme. You have secondary beneficial effects. We really cannot differentiate one from the other because I'm looking at tumor as a parasite. And they also need PAK1 kinase for tumor to grow. We're hitting them both with the Ivermectin.

[00:32:35] Scott: Let's talk a little bit about dental issues. I know several different threats fall into the dental realm: amalgams, root canals, cavitations, bite issues even. Talk to us about root canals, why they're an issue? Are they always an issue and how they impact the meridians and then potentially other organs and systems in the body?

[00:32:55] Dr. Yu: The danger of the root canal has been known for over 70, 80 years with a Dr. Weston Price and also Dr. George Meinig wrote a book Root Canal Cover-up. There’s compelling evidence. But when you're looking at the X ray, most of the time, it looks fine. At least it looks fine. But energetically I pick up always a dental problem.

I'm giving a talk to usually a dentist, biological dentist, and sometimes it looks perfectly normal looking dental X ray. But I pick up energetically what the hidden problem might be. Let's say for example, the number 10, tooth is bad. Look at the X ray, looks fine. Dentist will do cone beam 3D CT scan, looks fine. Maybe the muscle test, looks fine.

But I'm getting into this subtle energy field through the meridian system and I’ll challenge the patient's body and I say all the time. My message to the dentist is X rays, even CT scan, Cone Beam scan is not sensitive enough. You need to have at least 10%, 15% bone damage before you will show in the 3D Cone Beam scan. But before that there is a toxic effect, energetic disturbance that I can pick up through the meridian testing.

[00:34:27] Scott: Let's talk then a little bit about cavitations. How often do you find cavitations in people? Are they a problem only in those that are chronically ill or do many asymptomatic, healthy people also have cavitations that might then set the stage for a later health challenge?

[00:34:44] Dr. Yu: People can have a cavitation for 20 years, if you’re overall in good health. The cavitation might be from wisdom tooth that was extracted when they're 18 years old. At 40 years old, they’re doing fine. And then they have a, let’s say, minor car accident, some sports injuries. Then all of a sudden, they have symptoms coming up. When you trace back that was actually from the wisdom extract that was done 20 years ago.

They can handle it up to so many years. And then they will start showing up subtle signs. And that they remember, well it must be the car accident, maybe it was sports injury maybe they fell. But no, there's only the tip of the iceberg. Like it’s a hair pin breaking the …looking at the problems.

[00:35:37] Scott: What is the biggest barrier that you face with patients in terms of following up on your recommendations for extensive dental work? How do you address the stigma around tooth loss in terms of being a sign of failure and aging versus progress and a return to optimal health?

[00:35:55] Dr. Yu: My dental advice is one of the most difficult part. And this is where I lose my patients the most because they don't want to deal with it. When they find out how much it costs under the whole things, when they spend $30,000 or $50,000. I tell them, “Do it over again. Undo it.” Many of them do not come back to see me again. But they may come back five years later, they still have the same problem and sometimes it is too late.

Saying that I educate my patient and get to the main problem, get the infection out first before you do bridge work work to be done or any amalgam to be done. Although I'm totally against silver fillings with the mercury in it. To me, the infection is a driving force. Toxin is aggressive, even there for 20 years. I can wait for six months or a year. But infection, I want to get them out as soon as we can.

[00:36:53] Scott: Let's talk now a little bit about the allergy immunology piece. The contribution of immune hyper activation or allergies to many substances is often overlooked. If the immune system is responding unnecessarily to many different environmental exposures, to foods, these essentially burden the immune system, they create inflammation, which makes everything worse. What do you see as the key allergens that impact your patients?

[00:37:18] Dr. Yu: First from diet and I see not doing allergy test the part of the routine. Most common one is probably well known wheat, gluten, corn, soy, …, GMO, genetically modified organism anyway. Dairy I see all the time. And time to time I will see broccoli, garlic, asparagus, tomatoes. Sometimes, big surprise like many fish, chicken, eggs, is there.

People just don't know it because the test is called delayed response, IGG, delay response. It doesn't have the classic allergic response. So it becomes a chronic inflammation eating those foods. I look at it as part of the routine. I check for everybody.

[00:38:09] Scott: How much allergy is driven by parasites? Meaning that the immune system is shifted to a more TH2 dominant state as a result of the parasites and that as the parasites are treated, that allows then the body to shift back towards TH1 to have less allergy and autoimmunity and also then to deal with other chronic infections. Does treating parasites also helped to minimize the allergy issue?

[00:38:36] Dr. Yu: Actually, that's a good question because it depends on the stage of this parasite infestation. I explain to my patient, like a cancer patient who is at the end stage of cancer, sometime I suspect allergy problem but the allergy test comes blank. There’s a big surprise as a like a nothing shows. The reason is the immune system is so rundown that can even produce normal allergic response.

As they get better with a cleansing and detox. Two years later, we may see the actual allergic response. It's phase dependent. Sometime I expect allergy problem, but I don't.

And those people maybe they are lucky, doesn’t have allergy problem. Many times those are actually very sick people that cannot even produce normal allergic response.

I tell my patient, “You didn't waste your money on allergy test. Your system is so rundown that you don't even produce the normal expected allergic response.” Does that make sense to you?

[00:39:42] Scott: Yeah, absolutely. Extending then on the allergy discussion, mast cell activation syndrome and histamine intolerance. Those have become big topics over the past few years. Do you think that parasites and mold or fungi are triggers for mast cell activation syndrome? And does that syndrome reduce with your approach to addressing parasites and fungal issues?

[00:40:06] Dr. Yu: I don't really see too many called mast cell syndrome classical case. I've been reading about it, but I strongly feel that this missing link is a parasite problem, and probably some degree of fungal problem. The problem with the parasite is that there's no reliable way to check for parasite. That's the problem. We describe it as mast cell syndrome, just like we naming the name Lyme, mast cell syndrome. Whatever the diagnosis is, but underneath I see hidden parasite problem, fungal problems, and even dental infection. We have many different micro-organisms, including protozoa infection.

[00:40:55] Scott: Let's talk, you mentioned Lyme. Let's talk a little about Lyme. Many people listening to this show having had chronic Lyme disease. I'd be interested in your thoughts around Lyme, how much of a role it plays in burdening the body and leading to chronic health challenges. I know that you believe it is a real condition, but how much of a factor does Lyme play in burdening the body when someone's also dealing with parasites and dental issues and toxicity issues and food allergies and so on?

[00:41:24] Dr. Yu: First of all, I think Lyme is a little bit confusing. By classical definition, Lyme should be the way I understand is the CDC criteria, which is a Borrelia burgdorferi infection. People often respond fairly well to that alone. For Borrelia burgdorferi with the antibiotics. But there are many Lyme-like symptoms that is what I call pseudo-Lyme that mimic exactly like Lyme and they don't respond or a temporary response. And they plateau and their progress.

Again, I have a patient who've been on IV antibiotics for 10 years, feeling better functioning better, but still all the symptoms never been gone. They have a parasite problem.

They have a residual dental infection as a cavitation. Until they get rid of the parasite and dental problem, they’re still having these, what I call, low lingering chronic, what we call persistent post Lyme like symptoms.

I try not to dwell on the diagnosis as a Lyme unless there are many things have a mimicking just like the Lyme. The dental infection, the Treponema. Basically, spirochetes, behave very much like Lyme. You cannot distinguish them. If I give it one example it will be like this, Scott.

A husband and wife came, 65-year-old female and man. The wife was diagnosed with Lyme, with all those symptoms of chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia. All those neurologic symptoms, IGeneX Lyme test negative for IgG and IgM. Her husband, positive for IgG and IgM Lyme test. Positive, absolutely asymptomatic.

What's the difference between those two? Wife had six root canals. That's the only difference. There's a mental block to the remove the root canals. They don't want to lose their tooths. They went through all the Lyme special clinic. No one in the United States, went to Europe and just came back, she said feeling somewhat better with all those IV laser therapy. But you will not treat those root canal they will mimic just like a Lyme by Treponema denticola.

[00:43:57] Scott: Yeah, and that's interesting because you wonder then if the root canals potentially are suppressing the immune system. Such that for IGeneX test, to your earlier comment, she couldn't mount a response. Where her husband's body wasn't burdened, and thus, he was able to show a positive IGeneX test.

[00:44:15] Dr. Yu: Absolutely, you can argue either way. But the fact is, the dental is a driving force from one mimicing, she might not have Lyme but just mimic like a Lyme-like symptoms.

[00:44:27] Scott: Let's talk a little about viruses. Lots of different chronic viruses that we know can play a role in health, even some cancers as well. Do you find that viruses need to be specifically targeted in a treatment protocol or does unburdening the body from parasites and fungal issues, dental issues, toxins, allergens, does that allow the immune system then to come back online and address the viral layer?

[00:44:52] Dr. Yu: I'm looking at virus as part of is encoded in our DNA and RNA. And for some looking for evolution of the biology we have a DNA, RNA, then we have a protozoa, bacteria, fungus and the parasite. When you get the parasite, often they release also fungal, bacterial and viral particles then you sharing the viral burden.

If you look at, let's say, Lyme patients. You can say EBV virus, positive. CMV virus, positive. All those different viral titers positive. But today actually causing the symptoms, or maybe they overlooked the actual bacterial, fungal, and parasite problem and dental infections.

From my perspective, we should not focus on virus, we should focus at a higher level, that's the parasite, protozoa, fungus, etc., and also bacteria. These are called many different spectrum of the bacteria. They are like the fungal like Mycobacterium, Actinomyces. All those different spectrum of the bacteria. They are like a hybrid. They’re somewhat like a protozoa, somewhat like a fungus.

It's a very complex issue and we don't have to naming the name. That's where need some time big guns and some time use IV therapy, UV, ozone, other insulin potential therapy, using antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal, antiprotozoa and antiparasitic medication as a part of the therapy.

[00:46:32] Scott: We as humans are more than a physical body but also an energy body, an electromagnetic body. You talked earlier about EMFs. What we'll do the exogenous EMF from cell towers, Wi Fi, cell phones and other sources play on in terms of bringing down our health? And then how do you address when people are sensitive to the electromagnetic environment around them?

[00:46:58] Dr. Yu: I wish I can give you like a clear answer, but I don't. I'm still looking for the answer for myself, for my patients. But usually pick up the signal through the allergy immunology point. And especially those people with heavy metals are highly sensitive to EMF. If you have lead, mercury, high copper. Suddenly, you don't have to think of it, it makes sense.

I can do simple tests, hand to hand, conductance tests. And often this school gets higher and higher because we get exposed to all those environmental heavy metals. And we conduct electric current at a faster rate than without those extra heavy metals.

Some of those patients have a hard time getting rid of this parasite and fungus. All those people are sensitive to EMF. I see the correlation. I don't have enough experience, what kind of device might be beneficial. Now there are many like, some kind of a case for protect your body or those device. They may protect some frequency but not whole spectrum of the frequency.

If you ask me, I don't have clear answers except go detox, especially heavy metals should come out. Once you ever have parasite and fungal problem, it's like a vicious cycle.

That you're more sensitive to EMF, the EMF makes more difficult to get rid of fungal and parasite problem.

[00:48:31] Scott: What are some of the patterns that you see in children on the autism spectrum in terms of the factors contributing to their condition? What do you see as the key issues involved in autism?

[00:48:45] Dr. Yu: Man, you keep asking me all these questions. Scott, it’s a kind of a politically sensitive issue. I'll just tell you from my experience, just one example. I have a 35-year-old nurse from Dallas came to see me diagnosed with Lyme, the chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, and all with neurologic symptoms. I checked. I think she got like a 9 out of 40 meridian was out of balance.

I put her on three different parasite medication and she felt so much better on. She didn't tell me she have a five-year old autistic child. Severe autistic child with a ATC score of 109. I don't know if that’s the meaning. She told me that means that severe spectrum of autism. He’s not talking. He’s not communicating.

She's a nurse actually and give her medication to her five-year-old child without letting me know. And within few weeks, he was able to start talking and she couldn't believe it is possible. But she was so desperate for her child, gave her parasite medication to him.

When she came back, I have to pretend I'm very upset with her. “You cannot do that without even discussing with me.” But at least let me see your case anything else is going on. I check in a different kind of parasite medication also. He needs for antiprotozoa, she didn’t get that kind of medications.

I check for heavy metals and he's, heavy metals. The mercury levels twice high as his mom. I mean, she have a very high mercury level by his is twice as high and he is only five years old. That means she was passing. It’s a transgenerational passing the mercury from her to him. What caused the autism? I don't know. She said it was a vaccination maybe triggering it.

Maybe it was the vaccination may have a mercury in it. And he has mercury that triggering the set of autoimmune response and with a parasite problem. But it's just a one case. It doesn't mean everybody will respond to parasite medication. There's a problem with the autism communities that they're so desperate trying to do anything. And sometimes it doesn't work at all.

[00:51:22] Scott: Right. I know that you've worked with people with ALS as well, what have you learned from your work with ALS patients?

[00:51:33] Dr. Yu: Same as all those I've been talking about. I'll give you one example would be like this. I have a patient 67-year-old man came to see me recently diagnosed with ALS. And when I checked, he's got a dental problem. He’s got parasite problem. He’s got fungal problem, heavy metal problem, hormonal problem, low testosterone. I'm eliminating as much as I can. I’m racing against time. The faster they can apply all this the thing.

One of the biggest problem I face is always the dental. Not only their resistant to it. If I took care of one kind of dental problem, another dental problem shows up and no one is taking care of it. And other dental problems showing up. So this is a process you have to go through but as fast as you can.

We went through about 18 months, almost 2 years. He went back to the neurologist and they couldn't believe that he’s still functioning very well. And finally, two years, almost two years later, they're saying we've made a mistake. I don't think you have ALS. And he wrote a book and his name is Ron Unterreiner, it's called Unexpected Journey.

And he wrote the whole process we’ll have to go through it. Additional treatment came on, he was so exercise program, he had to crawl. He had to crawl at least 15 to 20 minutes twice a day, racing with his grandkids who can crawl faster. I gave micro current therapy, I put him on insulin potentiation therapy with antiviral, antibacterial antifungal, antiprotozoal. All those infectious burden and he got better.

I see all this ALS patients -- I have another ALS patient, he’s an architect. And within three months he was in a wheelchair, can’t do anything. Then one I check environmental toxins, he got massive amounts of a petrochemical toxins. Six months later, I’m still picking up the environmental toxin in the allergy point, check again.

This time he’s got organophosphates. That's a pesticide, insecticide showing, up massive amounts. When we did a literature review, they're saying this organophosphates poison can mimic exactly like ALS. We sent to the university to do something about this organophosphate.

You know what, they don't know what to do with the information. They really don't. We're doing all we can: IV therapy, IV Phos Choline, UV, everything we can to stabilize him. It will take some time for him to recover from this. Did I answer your question?

[00:54:39] Scott: Yeah, you did. All of these different kind of SIBO and SIFO are commonly discussed now more than ever, in terms of GI conditions that people are dealing with. We also know about Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis, IBD, IBS. Would you say that the majority of those conditions also commonly have a parasite component?

[00:55:03] Dr. Yu: I believe so. They don't always respond. I think there are some emotional components to it. And the GI problem, but many people do get better. Using different combination of the antiparasitic, antifungal medication. By the way, I don't differentiate between SIBO and SIFO, the fungal aspects of it. It’s the whole spectrum of the continual problem.

[00:55:31] Scott: Right. Morgellons is another condition that people often don't really understand the root cause. Have you worked with any Morgellons patients and have you been able to lead them to higher ground?

[00:55:46] Dr. Yu: I have had a few case I can talk about it. I have a one Boeing engineer, who was working on a black box project. He always talked about fibers coming out of his body, but I don't pay attention to his actual symptoms. He's saying he’s got Morgellons and when I checked he’s got significant parasite infestation and dental problem. Going through the process, he said he feels 90%-95% better and that was good enough for him. I see a few people like that, they say they got Morgellons and they often have a parasite and dental problem.

[00:56:24] Scott: Very interesting. I personally I’m very excited about frequency specific microcurrent or FSM. I know you use that in your, this as well. What kinds of things do your patients find frequency specific microcurrent helpful for?

[00:56:38] Dr. Yu: I don't really use as much as I should because time consuming part of the aspects of it. It’s good for me as a general support not as what Carolyn McMakin is using it for. These people really spend every day feeling for every known muscles and tendons. But for us, we use it just general support to reduce inflammation and for general pain. But not exactly what she's designed for. I’m using only less than 5% of potential use for FSM.

[00:57:16] Scott: In one of your recent articles, you wrote about your own personal experience with palladium poisoning, which is a heavy metal. Did you identify your palladium exposure and how's your health now that you've been working on chelating?

[00:57:31] Dr. Yu: Yeah, it’s another big mystery for me myself. I really have no idea. I can easily blaming government, maybe military experience, maybe whether there from. Maybe I can look for maybe I don't know, Russians. My wife says she's innocent. And it's like this. I see people always I ask them, “Where did you get your tungsten, where did you get your cadmium, where did you get your tin?” Just like me, I have no idea when I got exposed to it.

But from my experience dealing with a few patients, I dealt with they all develop cancer. I did check for actually cancer profile. And I was become a high risk with developing cancer. So I'm treating myself as a cancer patient. What precancerous condition, be proactive and I give IPT for myself, insulin potentiation therapy, using antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal, antiparasitic.

And going through all this different therapy, aggressive chelation therapy, DMPS and EDTA. They're all for palladium. I think DMPS a little bit superior to EDTA, it's going to be more and more difficult to use. DMPS is not available, is too expensive. But luckily I can use EDTA for palladium. My palladium level peaked at 500. Anything about 0.3 is considered high. Anything above one is considered too high and my level is now dropping down to about 200 from 500.

And I'm doing all I can. I do neurofeedback. Study shows animal mother and human mother, when you have a poisoning, you can give a neurofeedback called SMR, sensorimotor rhythm at low beta frequency. And they can tolerate the toxin much better than without any neurofeedback. So, I do that as part of my therapy so I can tolerate the toxic effects of the palladium.

[00:59:46] Scott: Well, I'm happy that you have this knowledge to be able to address this issue because we certainly are important to many of us. What is the experience of coming to Prevention and Healing in St. Louis, for a new patient? What can they expect when they visit your office? And what are some of the tools that you might utilize to arrive at your diagnosis and treatment plan?

[01:00:08] Dr. Yu: Now, first of all, I tell my patients whatever their diagnosis is and symptoms, they have to be open-minded about what I'm going to find. Some people have a fixation, I got parasite problem. And sometimes I just don't see it. The only thing I see is a dental problem, allergy problem, and they get very upset because they have a fixation with a parasite problem.

Whatever the problem is, I'm looking at always the underlying problems. typically either all my patient hair sample to be analyzed for mineral compositions. Now the basic allergy test, looking for any unexpected food allergy problem or sometime I look for airborne allergy problems. That depends on the meridian testing. I'll be looking for heavy metals, environmental toxins, parasite, fungal problem.

All this and we'll go through the process. People are coming from out of town, out of state, and then maybe two, three extra sets because they can afford to come back and forth. And I tell my patient do not expect one run or two run of a parasite medication is taking care of your problem.

If I have this problem for 10, 20 years, you take care of one kind of a parasite problem and another type of parasite will rise when you taking care of that, your fungal problem will show. And then another parasite will show, the entire problem will show you, it’s a process.

Usually I discourage people from another country expecting one visit will take care of it. Luckily, St. Louis in the middle of the United States is usually a one hop for most people. I just tell people, you have a realistic expectation.

[01:01:56] Scott: Talk to us about your newest book, and where people can find it. Accidental Blow Up in Medicine just out in the last several weeks, I have had the opportunity to read it. I think it's a fantastic resource. I think for both patients and practitioners. And I know there's a section in the back for practitioners as well, where you outline some of your parasite protocols, which will be very helpful. Tell us a little bit about the book and where people can get it.

[01:02:22] Dr. Yu: This is my second book. First book is called Accidental Cure. And I feel like it's a little bit incomplete because I was afraid to say some of the extra informations. Now, after 10 years later, I feel like I need to review some of the extra parasite medication I use and one of the most common dose I use and different combinations.

And it's kind of evolving because now I cannot use Ivermectin. I cannot use Levamisole. After all it’s a substitute one medication to another medication. Because the FDA don't like self-medication to be available for human consumption. I have to always looking for substitute for one medication I've been using for 5 years or 10 years have to change to something else.

Like a cancer patient, I usually use different combination of a parasite medication, including Levamisole. The FDA then came challenging me why I'm using it, it’s not available for human consumption and challenged all those pharmacy I was using. I have to now change to Nicolsamide. That works almost as good as the Levamisole for cancer patients.

It's kind of evolving, and I wrote about the whole story behind it. The second book is about accidental. If you see the book title is just dental is highlighted, about the dental connection. Why the dental is the turning point?

I tell my patient, I do my best to clean up as best as I can, parasite, fungal, environmental toxin. But the miracle doesn't happen in my practice. Miracle happened in the dental chair. If it's done correctly. So we needed…dentist to work together. I think I covered all the bases, right? Is that what you asked me?

[01:04:20] Scott: Yes. If people are interested in the book they can get it at Amazon.com. They can also get it at preventionandhealing.com. It is readily available. I definitely urge people to check it out. There's a lot of great information in there. The last question is one that I asked all of my guests and that is what are some of the key things that you do on a daily basis in support of your own health?

[01:04:43] Dr. Yu: I do routine yoga exercise with a little bit of a light weight. I use the sprinting as a part of my exercise program. But after the palladium, high in Phosphohexose Isomerase, I stopped doing some of the intense exercise until I get my palladium out.

I do coffee enema as best as I can, if I have a time to do it. And I guess the important part is I do my morning prayer and meditation. … Always gratitude as a minister, I can do something for my patients. It’s not just for me, but for other people. This kind of motivating factor, get me through the day.

[01:05:30] Scott: Beautiful. This has been a fantastic conversation. I certainly honor you and value your work. I personally, for those listening, have worked with Dr. Yu several years ago and at that time we did identify a parasite issue. He was the one that identified my cavitation issues which were addressed about six years ago now.

And so his medical detective work is something that I've personally benefited from. I urge everyone to check out the book, to check out his work at preventionandhealing.com. And I just thank you so much Dr. Yu for all of your contributions to making life better for so many of us.

[01:06:09] Dr. Yu: Thank you, Scott. Thank you for the invitation.

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